3:42 PM - As promised, we have posted our latest podcast here. We went over a wide variety of topics from the last two weeks since we did not get a chance to get together and record last week. A majority of this podcast is spent talking about news items from the past several days, with some emphasis on the Larry Brooks opinion piece last Sunday and the plight of the Nordiques fans last night.
Enjoy it, and once again, welcome new followers.
9:53 AM - As far as out of the ordinary and compelling are concerned, this game was the most of both as we've seen this season.
As I sit down here to write this, I realize that there are many different angles one can take this from. There was undoubtedly a lot to this game, with a very wide range of emotions that often changed from one minute to the next.
Obviously, the biggest story line of the game was the loyal fans of the now-defunct Quebec Nordiques coming down for the game. As they said in the various different articles written about their plight, they were not in essence here to tell the league that they need to move one of these two teams, rather that they think the league made a big mistake in depriving them of NHL hockey in the first place (and they did). Many of the folks who spoke with Isles fans basically reiterated this, but said that obviously if it came to moving a team they were more interested in the Phoenix Coyotes, Atlanta Thrashers and the Florida Panthers.
The Islanders welcomed the folks from Quebec City by giving them a shout out during one of the intermissions. I know a number of fans took exception to this, but the Islanders knew about this trip, and in essence really had nothing they could do about it. Besides, they were all rooting for the Islanders, starting pro-Isles chants, and it was the loudest and most passionate group of "Isles" fans that have been in there in quite a while.
The Nordiques supporters - all 1,200 of them - were very respectful. I know many Isles fans went in feeling threatened, but came home pleasantly surprised at how things went. Like I said, it added some much needed energy into the building.
Like I said earlier, the Quebec Nordiques never should have left. Perhaps that is the small market fan in me talking, but it seemed like the wrong thing to do. Sean and I have made our feelings known on this both here in this space and on the podcast. In fact, Sean took the time to compare the Nordiques situation to our own here after they had the Blue March in October. I know for me personally, I hope something there works out. Of course, my dream scenario includes the Islanders here in Long Island.
I mentioned that some fans took exception to the Islanders welcoming the fans to the building. While I don't think it was really necessary to do that, I'm not going to go all bonkers on the organization for acknowledging the fact that a good chunk of the crowd was there to make a statement. Besides, when one looks at the Islanders situation, perhaps the organization fed off of the energy from the Quebec fans. This could have been them sort of telling Nassau County "we support this, you better not make us leave." They could have EASILY used this as a threat. Think about it - you have 1,000+ screaming their heads off for a cause they believe in while the Islanders can't seem to make any progress on any type of development, regardless of who you blame.
Meanwhile, former Nordiques goalie and current Islanders GM Garth Snow took the time to address the media ahead of this game. That is something that Isles fans know the GM doesn't do very often. It's on the Islanders home page under a tab titled "Future." Point blank, Snow tells everyone that the Islanders will play until their lease is up and not any longer than they have to. This has been the company line, but Snow has always stepped away from anything regarding the building. Lately, he has been pretty adamant about not playing in the building after 2015. The whole experience is something the Islanders could easily set up to their own benefit when it comes to their situation here.
I will say, however, that both Kate Murray and Charles Wang are to blame for what's going on here as both have been stubborn on several different issues. By many accounts, Murray is willing to discuss things more regarding her counter while Wang wants to hear none of it.
Thanks to those from Quebec. I see that I am getting an unusual amount of traffic from Canada tonight, so a big welcome to those of you who are first time readers. We hope you do stick around and continue reading here in the future as true hockey fans. The Isles fans appreciated how classy you acted tonight, and how you really energized the crowd with your pro-Isles chants. It made the experience a lot more enjoyable than it has been in the last two months.
Meanwhile, fans of the Nordiques, Isles and Thrashers got to see quite the game. It had a little of everything it seems, including the Islanders blowing yet another lead.
Prior to the game, the Islanders decided to do a team bonding exercise in the form of giving everyone on the team mohawks. As Zenon Konopka said on the Twitter video, they feel that they are a tight knit group and wanted to try something to change their luck. It didn't.
The Islanders were actually playing really well until two fluke goals did them in. I can't really describe them because they were the strangest that I've seen, but Rick DiPietro's reaction here pretty much summed up the game nicely.
After the 2nd odd goal, Howie Rose explained that this game could blow the roof off of the Islanders frustrations. On the very next play, that is exactly what happened when John Tavares slashed Alexander Burmistrov across the back to goad him into a fight/wrestling match. Tavares was essentially done for the game, which had just a tick under five minutes remaining. It was certainly a questionable and surprising set of actions from the usually mild mannered Tavares.
The Islanders would try to battle back, getting a goal on the power-play late in the game to cut the Thrashers lead to one. It was their first PP goal in 47 opportunities. By this portion of the third, many of the Quebec fans had moved down behind the Thrashers goal and all you saw was powder blue jerseys with an occasional Isles royal blue mixed in. Their reaction to the Isles goal was pretty neat and generated a lot of noise that in turn made the Islanders buzz, getting some other excellent chances in the final minute plus with DiPietro pulled. Unfortunately, they would fall short.
Like I said, the Islanders had a fairly solid effort until the 3rd, when it all unravelled and collapsed after two bad, weak goals. It was certainly a very fitting end for what ended up becoming a very strange and very odd day.
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Showing posts with label Quebec Nordiques. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Quebec Nordiques. Show all posts
December 12, 2010
October 3, 2010
Homeward Bound?
Can small markets make a comeback?
Like so many, I have a soft spot for nostalgia. Now don't get me wrong, I love my 90s television and music, but I'm more of a softie for defunct NHL franchises. Nothing says true fan to me like putting on your throwback Nords jersey, while rocking out to Brass Bonanza and cutting a check to Goals for Kids. I remember these teams fondly, and I remember being sad seeing them go. I was sad because they were something I grew up with and was used to, but more so than anything else, I was sad for the fans who had to say good bye to their beloved teams.
What also hit me like a ton of pucks was the fact that these were three teams who were in small markets with outdated facilities and unfortunately had slipped away from their winning ways. Sound familiar? But thankfully, the Isles were able to get it together in the years that followed, and they were able to make themselves playoff contenders (for a time at least). Unfortunately, it was too little too late for the Winnipeg Jets, Quebec Nordiques, and Hartford Whalers. None of these teams were able to secure the ownership or the funds for a new building.
And wouldn't you know it, the Nords move to Colorado, become the Avalanche, and win the damn cup. Can you only imagine if that had happened two or three years prior? There may never have been The Blue March that was held yesterday in Quebec City. Somewhere between 75,000 and 100,000 Nordiques fans took to the Plains of Abraham to rally for the return of the Nordiques. It was a tremendous event, that saw the return of Nords legends, such as the Statsny brothers. It was also, in my opinion, a tremendous success.
Like so many, I have a soft spot for nostalgia. Now don't get me wrong, I love my 90s television and music, but I'm more of a softie for defunct NHL franchises. Nothing says true fan to me like putting on your throwback Nords jersey, while rocking out to Brass Bonanza and cutting a check to Goals for Kids. I remember these teams fondly, and I remember being sad seeing them go. I was sad because they were something I grew up with and was used to, but more so than anything else, I was sad for the fans who had to say good bye to their beloved teams.
What also hit me like a ton of pucks was the fact that these were three teams who were in small markets with outdated facilities and unfortunately had slipped away from their winning ways. Sound familiar? But thankfully, the Isles were able to get it together in the years that followed, and they were able to make themselves playoff contenders (for a time at least). Unfortunately, it was too little too late for the Winnipeg Jets, Quebec Nordiques, and Hartford Whalers. None of these teams were able to secure the ownership or the funds for a new building.
And wouldn't you know it, the Nords move to Colorado, become the Avalanche, and win the damn cup. Can you only imagine if that had happened two or three years prior? There may never have been The Blue March that was held yesterday in Quebec City. Somewhere between 75,000 and 100,000 Nordiques fans took to the Plains of Abraham to rally for the return of the Nordiques. It was a tremendous event, that saw the return of Nords legends, such as the Statsny brothers. It was also, in my opinion, a tremendous success.

Point blank, hockey never should have left Quebec. It probably shouldn't have left Winnipeg either. Canadians have too much pride and love for the game of hockey to have two of their teams be swept out from underneath them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not willing to give them my team, but there should still be teams in those cities. Now there have been rumors for years that these teams would eventually make their way home. Quite honestly, we've never been this close to seeing a return in either market. The new(ish) MTS Centre in Winnipeg could be a great suitor for the return of the Jets. Let's be real about something: it's great that hockey fans can watch the Manitoba Moose, but that arena was NOT built for AHL hockey. That was built to lure the NHL. Don't let anyone tell you any different.
This recent rally, plus the support of many of the politicians in the province, could be the open door opportunity to put a team back in Quebec. Their only issue, unlike Winnipeg, is the arena. The Colisee is completely out of date and far inferior as compared to most NHL venues. While the 1949 house is a great monument for old time hockey, it has to go. If the politicians and hockey fans play their cards right, it will be only a memory, while the new $400 million dollar palace is built to bring home the Colisee's former tenants. It was also announced that the province of Quebec would fund 50% of the project, while Quebec City would throw in an additional $50 million. But as per usual, the normal politics will come into play, and may stall the plans. But remember, politics works two ways, and those in favor of it have said that they also want the new arena in order to lure the Olympics back to Canada in 2022.
Now, most of you may be asking why in the hell I decided to write about this in an Islanders blog. Well, they were small markets that lost their teams. We're a small market that's in danger of potentially losing our team. But the most important piece of the puzzle, is that they are small markets that may be getting their teams back. In my honest opinion, I believe that a return to hockey in Winnipeg and Quebec is inevitable. I think that these are both cities that can sustain NHL franchises, despite what their history will tell you. I also think that the NHL would entertain the idea of adding teams to the country that loves them most.
Now I understand that Gary Bettman has said that he is committed to the teams in place, and that's great news for a team like the Islanders. We have an owner who is committed to keeping us here, and has spent a boat load of money trying to do so. Eventually however, you need to cut your losses and admit defeat. This must be clear in the case of Mr. Bettman. While I commend his dedication to the current markets and fan bases, there comes a time where you've got the make a smart business decision and decide that it is time to expand and grow a profit. That may be the case for such teams like the Phoenix Coyotes. They had a fantastic run last season and made it all the way to the playoffs, and still, they don't know what their ownership (if any_ situation is. The league is dropping millions into the team to keep it afloat until a resolution is met. As of right now, there isn't a clear cut owner who is fronting the money to keep the team in Phoenix. How much longer can this go on?
What does this mean for a team like the Islanders? It shows that with the right facilities, a team can exist in a small market, and the league is willing to put teams in a small market. I'll eat my crow; I've said for years that the NHL would never put a team in a small market again. After the Hartford, Winnipeg, Quebec, and currently Long Island situations, I thought the league was done with the smaller markets, and would only focus on cities like Las Vegas. I stand here today and say that I may have been wrong, which is a good thing. It shows that there may still be hope for us smaller market fan bases. Gary Bettman was always behind keeping the Islanders here, and he was always behind the Lighthouse Project, but it's refreshing to hear that we're not the only ones, should the right situation come around.
What can the people of Quebec learn from the Islanders current battle?

Quite honestly, I think there is something to be said about flexibility. The politicians, potential owners, and taxpayers need to all be flexible in this process. It's going to take a lot to please as many people as possible, because let's be real, you won't please everyone. There's always going to be one kill-joy in the crowd complaining about how their tax dollars went to fund a hockey team. The funny part is that while they entertains friends/family/clients at the Nords game or Lady GaGa concert, they'll forget about it and just have fun (and make themselves look like a rock star in the process). But the key is to be flexible. We saw how the inability to come to a reasonable conclusion can kill the chances of keeping a team in their home. That falls on both parties involved.
These people are going to NEED to listen to each other, and find some common ground to walk on. Those opposed are going to have to look at the big picture and see how this could be profitable for years to come and potentially land the Olympics. Those in favor need to be willing to scale back some, in order to appease everyone. In doing so, they can't attack each other in the media, then place a gag order in effect to call each other's bluffs. They're going to need to sit down, go into each meeting with an open mind, and find the most suitable conclusion so that everyone walks out a winner. That does not include scaling something back to the point of no return to put pressure on someone. In return, it means not standing pat thinking you've got them on their heels. Quebec, learn something from the Lighthouse Project. It was nearly a decade of nonsense. Blame whoever you want. My opinions are well documented at this point. At the end of the day, we all lost.
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